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01/28/2009 01:15 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES


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01:52:48 PM What You Need to Know: Health Reform in Alaska
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
                         JOINT MEETING                                                                                        
      SENATE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                    
      HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                     
                        January 28, 2009                                                                                        
                           1:16 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Bettye Davis, Chair                                                                                                    
 Senator Joe Paskvan, Vice Chair                                                                                                
 Senator Johnny Ellis                                                                                                           
 Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Wes Keller, Co-Chair                                                                                            
 Representative Bob Herron, Co-Chair                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
 Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE HEALTH AND SOCIAL SERVICES STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
 Representative Bob Lynn                                                                                                        
 Representative Paul Seaton                                                                                                     
 Representative John Coghill                                                                                                    
 Representative Sharon Cissna                                                                                                   
 Representative Lindsey Holmes                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Picture of Alaska                                                                                                             
     Alice Rarig, PhD Health Planning & Systems                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
What You Need to Know: Health Reform for Alaska                                                                               
Lessons from Other States and Issues to Consider                                                                              
     Enrique Martinez-Vidal, Vice President, AcademyHealth                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
No previous action to record.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WAYNE A. STEVENS, President/CEO                                                                                                 
Alaska State Chamber of Commerce                                                                                                
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced the topic.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ROD BETIT, Alaska State Hospital and Nursing Home Association                                                                   
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Introduced the speakers.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ALICE RARIG, Planner IV                                                                                                         
Health Planning and Systems Development Section                                                                                 
Division of Public Health                                                                                                       
Alaska Department of Health and Social Services                                                                                 
Juneau, AK                                                                                                                      
POSITION STATEMENT: Presented data  about Alaska's current health                                                             
care system and challenges.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
ENRIQUE MARTINEZ-VIDAL, Vice President                                                                                          
AcademyHealth and                                                                                                               
Director of State Coverages Initiatives                                                                                         
Washington, DC                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented information about  national health                                                             
care reform strategies and what other states are doing.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:16:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BETTYE  DAVIS called  the joint meeting  of the  Senate and                                                             
House Health and Social Services  Standing Committees to order at                                                               
1:16 p.m.  Present at  the call to  order were  Senators Paskvan,                                                               
Ellis, Thomas and Davis and Representatives Keller and Herron.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:18:13 PM                                                                                                                    
WAYNE STEVENS,  President/CEO, Alaska State Chamber  of Commerce,                                                               
introduced the topic  and thanked the legislators  for taking the                                                               
time  to  hear this  presentation  and  introduced Rod  Betit  as                                                               
moderator.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:19:21 PM                                                                                                                    
ROD BETIT,  Alaska State Hospital  and Nursing  Home Association,                                                               
said he was asked to guide  the committee through the three parts                                                               
of this presentation:                                                                                                           
   1. Background information about the health care situation in                                                                 
     Alaska.                                                                                                                    
   2. What is going on around the country; what other states are                                                                
     doing and what is happening on a federal level.                                                                            
   3. A panel of people to answer questions regarding Alaska-                                                                   
     specific challenges and to discuss what the legislature can                                                                
     accomplish this session.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
He introduced  Alice Rarig, the  senior planner at  Alaska Social                                                               
and  Health  Services, to  cover  her  new research  into  health                                                               
coverage in the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                       ^Picture of Alaska                                                                                   
                                                                                                                              
1:21:23 PM                                                                                                                    
ALICE   RARIG,  PhD   Health  Planning   and  Systems,   Planner,                                                               
Department of Health and Social  Services, said she is pleased to                                                               
have the opportunity  to provide information about  the status of                                                               
health care in Alaska and  to update the committee on facilities,                                                               
services and workforce  issues that the legislature  will need to                                                               
be thinking about as they consider health reform options.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:21:56 PM                                                                                                                    
Slide 2                                                                                                                         
She  hoped to  address  the questions  of who  and  how many  are                                                               
uninsured,  where  they  are  and   why  they  are  uninsured  or                                                               
underinsured;  state health  expenditures; access  issues; health                                                               
status issues;  and employers' offerings  of health  insurance in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. RARIG suggested the committee  look at the economic impact of                                                               
their decisions  and think about  who should be covered.  Do they                                                               
want  everyone to  be  covered?  Do they  want  everyone to  have                                                               
access? If so, what are the  implications of that? She noted that                                                               
coverage  and access  are  not synonymous;  one  can have  access                                                               
without a  source of payment or  may have the ability  to pay but                                                               
no services at hand.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:23:36 PM                                                                                                                    
Slide 3                                                                                                                         
The  newest figures  available indicate  that  123,000 people  in                                                               
Alaska are  uninsured. That is  18 percent of the  population, up                                                               
from 17  percent according  to the last  survey. The  next survey                                                               
will be done  in March and the data will  be available six months                                                               
after that. Using a 3 year  average however, 115,000 people or 17                                                               
percent of  the population is  uninsured, including  about 21,000                                                               
Alaska  natives who  may have  access to  some services  in their                                                               
villages  or through  tribal entities.  This is  not portable  or                                                               
comprehensive  insurance  but  is  an  important  opportunity  to                                                               
access primary care and some  additional services. If they assume                                                               
for  the  United  States  and  Alaska  that  Alaska  natives  and                                                               
American Indians have some access  to care, that can bring number                                                               
of  people  who  need  something  in the  way  of  access  and/or                                                               
insurance down to below 100,000.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  RARIG pointed  out  that those  who  are considered  covered                                                               
include private  insurance subscribers and their  dependents, the                                                               
military and their dependents, and  veterans. She encouraged them                                                               
to keep  in mind  the limitations of  veterans' care.  Also, they                                                               
count  Denali Kid  Care  enrollees as  covered  whether they  are                                                               
enrolled for  one month or the  entire year; so those  people may                                                               
be  uninsured  for  part  of the  year.  Medicare  enrollees  are                                                               
counted as  covered despite the  difficulty in  finding providers                                                               
who will accept Medicare in many Alaskan communities.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Slide 4                                                                                                                         
The  numbers  may  overlap because  some  people  have  veteran's                                                               
coverage and perhaps Medicare and/or  a private insurance policy.                                                               
With that in mind, 58  percent of individuals are covered through                                                               
employer-based policies; 6  percent have self-purchased policies;                                                               
13 percent  are in Medicaid  or Denali  Kid Care; 8  percent have                                                               
Medicare coverage, and 14 percent,  which is much higher than the                                                               
U.S. average, are covered by  military or veterans coverage. That                                                               
leaves 17 percent  uninsured all year except  for Alaskan natives                                                               
who have access to some services.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Slide 5                                                                                                                         
MS.  RARIG continued  that  the  people most  likely  to have  no                                                               
insurance are the self-employed,  part-time and seasonal workers,                                                               
people who  work for  small firms, and  young adult  males. About                                                               
1/3 of 18 to  24 year olds do not have  insurance coverage of any                                                               
kind.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
More  than  half  of  the uninsured,  52  percent,  are  employed                                                               
adults. Only 9  percent are unemployed people  who are employable                                                               
and looking for work, and about 40 percent are children.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Slide 6                                                                                                                         
Another  way to  look  at this  is that  84  percent of  Alaska's                                                               
uninsured are in working families,  compared to 76 percent in the                                                               
nation as a whole.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:29:01 PM                                                                                                                    
Slide 7                                                                                                                         
Underinsurance  is another  problem.  The  Commonwealth Fund  has                                                               
defined  the "underinsured"  as people  who have  health coverage                                                               
that  does   not  adequately  protect  them   from  high  medical                                                               
expenses.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
It is hard  to know which comes first, ill  health or bankruptcy,                                                               
but  they  often go  together.  High  deductibles can  result  in                                                               
postponed care. Many people have  some care but cannot afford the                                                               
co-pay or  the deductibles and choose  not to get care  until and                                                               
unless they feel they have  to. Benefit limitations can result in                                                               
high out-of-pocket  costs. And, she reiterated,  coverage doesn't                                                               
necessarily mean access. It can be  a matter of geography; it can                                                               
be  the  provider  Medicare  acceptance  issue  or  shortages  of                                                               
providers  that mean  there are  no people  available to  provide                                                               
services. She cited  the example of dentists in  some rural areas                                                               
who  have to  spend all  of  their time  on emergency  treatments                                                               
rather than prevention because there  are too few providers to do                                                               
both.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Slide 8                                                                                                                         
MS. RARIG  advised that there is  a great deal of  data available                                                               
on  the department's  website from  a two  year federally  funded                                                               
state  planning  grant  to  look   at  the  uninsured.  There  is                                                               
information  from a  household survey;  an employer  survey; "key                                                               
informant" interviews;  an economic analysis; and  an overview of                                                               
what   other   states   are   doing.    The   web   address   is:                                                               
http://www.hss.state.ak.us/dph/healthplanning/planningGrant/defa                                                                
ult.htm.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Slide 9                                                                                                                         
Regarding  expenditures for  health services,  two years  ago the                                                               
Institute for  Social and Economic Research  (ISER) at University                                                               
of Alaska Anchorage  (UAA) wrote a carefully  prepared summary of                                                               
the state's health expenditures and  arrived at the total of $5.3                                                               
billion  for 2005.  About $1  billion of  that from  individuals'                                                               
out-of-pocket and  premium costs; a  little less than  $1 billion                                                               
from  businesses  for health  insurance  or  direct services  for                                                               
their employees;  about $.5 billion  from local  governments; $.8                                                               
billion from  state government  and $2  billion from  the federal                                                               
government. At an  average annual increase of  8.5 percent, which                                                               
has been  the average for the  past 20 years, Alaska  would be at                                                               
about $6.3 billion  now; however the increase  has accelerated to                                                               
about 12  percent annually over  the last six years,  which would                                                               
put the  total at about $7  billion for 2009. She  noted that the                                                               
ISER      study     is      also     available      online     at                                                               
http://iser.uaa.alaska.edu/Home/ResearchAreas/health care.htm.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Slide 10                                                                                                                        
MS.  RARIG   introduced  a  graph   by  Neal   Gilbertsen,  [PhD,                                                               
Economist,  Department   of  Labor  and   Workforce  Development,                                                               
Research  and  Analysis  Section]   on  Per  Capita  Health  Care                                                               
Expenditures,  which  represents what  Alaska  and  the U.S.  per                                                               
capita  health  expenditures  are  as a  percent  of  per  capita                                                               
income. Nationally,  the percentage has  increased from 13  to 16                                                               
percent of per  capita income, while Alaska has  gone from paying                                                               
11 percent  to 19 percent. This  is partly due to  that fact that                                                               
per  capita income  in the  state has  remained fairly  steady at                                                               
about $33,000  per year in  constant dollars while income  in the                                                               
rest of the country has been going up.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Slide 11                                                                                                                        
She discussed  access to care in  terms of what is  available for                                                               
primary  care,  hospitals  and other  facilities,  workforce  and                                                               
reimbursement. There are 24 hospitals  across the state, of which                                                               
11 are  "critical access"  hospitals with fewer  than 25  beds in                                                               
communities where  their existence might be  threatened without a                                                               
reimbursement  structure  that  provides an  economic  advantage.                                                               
There  are veterans'  clinics  now in  Anchorage  and in  Juneau.                                                               
Alaska also has 26 community  health center organizations serving                                                               
people  in  141 different  sites.  Three  or  four of  those  are                                                               
frontier  "extended  stay" clinics,  which  are  able to  provide                                                               
services overnight  or for a  longer time; they are  working with                                                               
Medicare  and  Medicaid  payers on  an  acceptable  reimbursement                                                               
structure  for  those.  There are  also  nursing  homes,  pioneer                                                               
homes,   assisted   living   and  residential   psych   treatment                                                               
facilities.   The  department   is  very   concerned  about   the                                                               
community-based  programs  and  levels  of   care  and  has  been                                                               
focusing  a  lot  of  attention on  improving  the  capacity  for                                                               
prevention and  community-based services to keep  people close to                                                               
home.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:35:31 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. RARIG touched  briefly on the matter  of workforce shortages,                                                               
saying that there is a lot  of anxiety and some real shortages in                                                               
physician   numbers,  mid-level   providers,  dentists,   nurses,                                                               
pharmacists and  behavioral health  workers. There are  also some                                                               
paraprofessional   positions   for   which  Alaska   has   spotty                                                               
shortages;  often it  is the  distribution  rather than  absolute                                                               
number  that is  a  concern. There  is  national competition  for                                                               
every warm  body that  works in  health care  because there  is a                                                               
national shortage.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Criteria  for   enrollment  in  public  programs,   such  as  the                                                               
citizenship documentation  requirement, has made it  difficult in                                                               
some cases for people to enroll in Denali Kid Care and Medicaid.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. RARIG offered  several maps [Slides 12-14]  to illustrate the                                                               
geographical   disbursement   of   various   types   of   medical                                                               
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
   · Community Health Centers are well distributed across the                                                                   
     state.                                                                                                                     
   · Hospitals tend to be in the larger population centers in                                                                   
     Southeast, Anchorage, Mat-Su, Kenai and Kodiak except for                                                                  
     the important regional hospitals in Nome, Kotzebue, Barrow                                                                 
     and Dillingham.                                                                                                            
   · There are many Public Health nursing centers from which                                                                    
     nurses  itinerate to  other communities;  but the  distances                                                               
     between the villages and the  regional centers sometimes are                                                               
     great  and   the  challenges  of   Alaska  weather   can  be                                                               
     substantial.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Slide 15                                                                                                                        
Health  Status Considerations  in Alaska  are slightly  different                                                               
form those  in the  rest of  the country in  that only  about six                                                               
percent  of the  state's population  is 65  or older  as compared                                                               
with 13  percent in the  rest of  the country. It  is significant                                                               
however, that  services do  have to be  available for  that aging                                                               
population.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Behavioral health  is a major  focus in the  department, reducing                                                               
the number  of children with  severe emotional disorders  who end                                                               
up  going to  outside  residential psych  treatment centers.  The                                                               
"Bring the Kids Home" project  has been effective in keeping kids                                                               
in state.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Alaska is doing fairly well  at reducing mortality rates for some                                                               
of the  chronic diseases  such as cancer  and heart  disease, but                                                               
not  so well  yet  with  diabetes and  suicide.  In  the area  of                                                               
lifestyle choices and "built  environment" improvements, both the                                                               
Division  of Public  Health and  the department  are focusing  on                                                               
continuing to bring down mortality rates and morbidity.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Slides 16-17                                                                                                                    
MS.  RARIG said  that a  household survey  conducted a  couple of                                                               
years  ago  enabled them  to  identify  the  fact that  about  12                                                               
percent of Alaskans consider  self-employment their primary place                                                               
of  work,  which was  not  known  previously.  About 1/2  of  the                                                               
respondents were in private for-profit  enterprises, about 1/4 in                                                               
government, 1/8 in not-for-profits and 1/8 self-employed.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:41:36 PM                                                                                                                    
Slide 18                                                                                                                        
Self employed people  are less likely to  have insurance coverage                                                               
than  others; but  7  in  10 had  coverage  under someone  else's                                                               
policy  or under  a public  program. Government  covers about  98                                                               
percent of their employees. Private  sector employers cover about                                                               
87 percent of their employees  and the self-employed are about 71                                                               
percent covered by something.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Slide 19                                                                                                                        
Alaska has  more upper-income  people without  insurance coverage                                                               
than the  rest of  the country. This  may be due  in part  to the                                                               
fact that access to services isn't as good here.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Slide 20                                                                                                                        
Alaska  has about  11,000 small  firms and  only about  300 large                                                               
firms, those with 100 or more  people. The jobs are mostly in the                                                               
large firms; so  the number of people covered in  the small firms                                                               
is  fewer  than  50,000.  Over  150,000  work  for  those  larger                                                               
enterprises.  The larger  firms  are much  more  likely to  offer                                                               
insurance to  dependents as well  as employees and  waiting times                                                               
are generally shorter for the larger firms.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Slides 21-29                                                                                                                    
Alaska  has  the most  seasonal  private  sector economy  in  the                                                               
nation.  There is  a  25  percent increase  every  year from  the                                                               
January  base  to  July.  That  is 21  percent  higher  than  the                                                               
national average.  The greatest  variation occurs in  Bristol Bay                                                               
where there is an 1100 percent increase annually.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The annual  seasonal variation in  employment is  predictable and                                                               
consistent. While  many seasonal  workers are  non-resident, many                                                               
more are  Alaskans. Seasonal  employment contributes  to problems                                                               
in  obtaining  and  retaining   health  insurance;  most  insured                                                               
workers  are full-time  employees. Seasonal  workers seldom  have                                                               
sufficient  tenure to  be eligible  to  enroll in  employer-based                                                               
programs. The July employment captures  peak enrollment; but many                                                               
enrolled will  lose employment-based insurance or  suffer gaps in                                                               
coverage when employment declines to seasonal lows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. RARIG  stressed that some jobs  have more than one  person in                                                               
them in  the course of  a quarter  and some people  have multiple                                                               
jobs; so  one needs to  distinguish between jobs and  people when                                                               
thinking about insurance coverage.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:48:44 PM                                                                                                                    
In  conclusion, Ms.  Rarig  reiterated that  Alaska  does have  a                                                               
strong seasonal economy  with a mixed labor pool, a  lot of self-                                                               
employment  and  small firms,  which  means  that there  are  big                                                               
challenges  in  terms  of the  current  employer-based  insurance                                                               
models.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
She encouraged the  committee to think about whether  the goal of                                                               
any  reform   is  affordable  and  accessible   care,  affordable                                                               
insurance  or  a  blend  of  both;  about  what  are  the  target                                                               
populations;  and about  the underinsured.    The current  system                                                               
rests  on  200,000 jobs  covering  about  400,000 people,  public                                                               
programs  that  cover  150,000   to  175,000  and  about  100,000                                                               
uninsured.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:51:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        ^What You Need to Know: Health Reform in Alaska                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BETIT introduced  Enrique  Martinez-Vidal,  saying that  his                                                               
background was important to the  Alaska Health Assurance Advocacy                                                               
Team (AHAAT),  which is behind  this presentation. AHAAT  is made                                                               
up  of providers,  the business  community,  consumers and  other                                                               
interested parties who are trying  to understand what makes sense                                                               
for  Alaska.   Mr.  Martinez-Vidal  is  the   vice  president  of                                                               
AcademyHealth,  which   is  one  of  the   premier  health-policy                                                               
institutes in the country. He is  also the director of the Robert                                                               
Wood-Johnson [State] Coverages Initiatives,  which is what he has                                                               
been  working with  the  Department  of Health  on.  He has  been                                                               
around the  country helping individual  states try  to understand                                                               
the data and what they need to do.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:52:48 PM                                                                                                                    
ENRIQUE MARTINEZ-VIDAL, Vice  President, AcademyHealth; Director,                                                               
State  Coverages  Initiatives, said  health  reform  is not  just                                                               
coverage  and  access.  When  states  think  about  coverage  and                                                               
access, the  first thing that comes  to mind is how  much it will                                                               
cost,  which leads  immediately  to cost-containment  strategies.                                                               
They  have  also  been thinking  about  quality  improvement  and                                                               
improvement to systems such as  the delivery and payment systems;                                                               
so it is cost, quality and  access that states are trying to deal                                                               
with all at the same time.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
AcademyHealth  is a  community  of  health services  researchers,                                                               
policy makers  and policy analysts.  Their mission is to  work to                                                               
get research and  information into the hands of  policy makers so                                                               
they can make better decisions and  to talk with policy makers to                                                               
find out what kind of information  they really need to make those                                                               
decisions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Slides 1-3                                                                                                                      
State Coverage Initiatives is an  initiative of the Robert Woods-                                                               
Johnson  Foundation that  works with  state officials  to provide                                                               
information as  well as  direct technical  assistance to  work on                                                               
health reforms.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARTINEZ-VIDAL  began with an  overview of  his presentation.                                                               
He said it  will provide a brief background of  what is happening                                                               
to  health coverage  across  the county;  what  is driving  state                                                               
reform and what is going on in other states at this time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Slide 4                                                                                                                         
Two maps  are color coded  to show the distribution  of uninsured                                                               
adults  18-64   over  two  time-periods.  These   illustrate  the                                                               
decreasing  trend  in  employer-sponsored  insurance  over  time,                                                               
which is causing the number of uninsured to increase.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Slides 5-6                                                                                                                      
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDALpointed out  that  the uninsured  have a  wide                                                               
range  of  incomes.  He  agreed  with  Ms.  Rarig  that  Alaska's                                                               
distribution  has a  larger  number of  uninsured  at the  higher                                                               
income levels than  does the lower 48. The  important thing about                                                               
that programmatically is that the  uninsured are not a monolithic                                                               
population,  which means  there are  different solutions  for the                                                               
differing populations.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Slide 7                                                                                                                         
In 1987 it  took just over 7 percent of  the median family income                                                               
to  purchase medical  insurance coverage;  now it  takes over  20                                                               
percent to buy that same policy.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The  U.S. map  on slide  8  illustrates the  variation in  health                                                               
system quality across the country.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Slide 9                                                                                                                         
He touched on the drivers of  state health reform, which are high                                                               
levels  of  uninsured,  decreasing  employer-sponsored  insurance                                                               
programs  and increasingly  unaffordable  health  care costs  and                                                               
insurance  premiums. A  lot of  research points  to the  need for                                                               
[health insurance]  coverage for  an effective,  efficient health                                                               
care system;  many problems are  due to the fragmentation  in our                                                               
existing system.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:00:48 PM                                                                                                                    
Slide 10                                                                                                                        
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL  offered a  list  of  key policy  and  design                                                               
issues, which are  covered individually on slides  11 through 16.                                                               
He  returned  to  the idea  that  different  populations  require                                                               
different  solutions, but  clarified that  there are  three major                                                               
groups to be considered when looking at the uninsured.                                                                          
   · There are those who have very few resources to bring to the                                                                
     private insurance market  and who end up  in public programs                                                               
     like SCHIP. This population needs  a 100 percent subsidy. He                                                               
     suggested that  there is  some layering  possible on  top of                                                               
     that;  perhaps some  people  would need  to  use the  public                                                               
     program  delivery system  but could  help contribute  to it.                                                               
     Some states  have sliding scale  subsidies for those  over a                                                               
     certain income level.                                                                                                      
   · The middle group is those who can bring some resources to                                                                  
     the  private sector  solution. These  are the  working poor,                                                               
     lower  income people  who  just can't  afford  to direct  20                                                               
     percent of  their income to purchasing  an insurance policy.                                                               
     States are  trying to  provide some sort  of subsidy  to the                                                               
     premium  through reinsurance,  tax  credits, direct  premium                                                               
     assistance, vouchers and other methods.                                                                                    
   · The third group is those who have sufficient resources to                                                                  
     participate in  the market but  choose not to. As  Ms. Rarig                                                               
     mentioned, there  might be very viable  economic reasons not                                                               
     to do  that; but if  they are  outside the system,  they are                                                               
     not  contributing to  the risk  pool, and  many times  these                                                               
     people are healthier than the other groups.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
He asserted that  there are only two ways to  deal with the issue                                                               
of  voluntary non-participation:  mandate  insurance coverage  as                                                               
Massachusetts  has  done,  or encourage  voluntary  participation                                                               
through  education,  outreach   and  simplifying  the  enrollment                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:04:10 PM                                                                                                                    
"Who will  pay?" and  "Who will benefit?"  Most states  that have                                                               
moved ahead with  reform have really tried to  bring people "into                                                               
the fold" in  terms of paying for any expansions  and reforms. It                                                               
comes  under the  rubric of  shared  responsibility. Some  states                                                               
believe there  is enough money in  the system and the  problem is                                                               
waste  and  over-utilization. A  lot  of  research supports  that                                                               
view, indicating  that about 1/3  of expenses in the  health care                                                               
system  aren't necessary.  However,  redistribution becomes  very                                                               
difficult politically. Maine tried to do  it but was hit with law                                                               
suits and  had real  political problems. The  bottom line  is, if                                                               
redistributing the money in the  system isn't possible, the state                                                               
has to find a new form of revenue.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Should  Health  Insurance  Coverage  be  required,  and  is  that                                                               
enforceable? Massachusetts  is doing it through  the state income                                                               
tax system.  The Baucus [Health  Reform] Plan includes  a mandate                                                               
that  would be  enforced  through the  federal  tax system.  Some                                                               
people feel ideologically  that such a mandate  impinges on their                                                               
personal  freedoms. There  are  also  administrative issues  that                                                               
have to  be resolved to make  this happen; but the  biggest issue                                                               
in terms  of whether this  will work or  not is economic.  If the                                                               
government  is going  to require  that people  buy insurance,  it                                                               
will either  have to subsidize  the middle and low  income groups                                                               
that simply can't  afford it, or increase  the eligibility levels                                                               
for public programs, which costs money.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
That leads to the question of  what is affordable coverage. It is                                                               
related  to benefit  design, to  subsidies perhaps,  and to  that                                                               
individual mandate.  If the state  is going to  mandate coverage,                                                               
it has  to determine what  is affordable. It is  generally agreed                                                               
that  the premiums,  co-pays and  out-of-pocket  costs should  be                                                               
related to income and the ability to pay.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARTINEZ-VIDAL  continued that  benefit design comes  down to                                                               
not only the  cost of the coverage, but the  value of the benefit                                                               
plan. Many states  have tried allowing carriers  to sell mandate-                                                               
free  policies and  found that  no  one wants  them because  they                                                               
don't offer a  good value for the money. There  are other ways to                                                               
approach  the problem;  for example,  Minnesota is  trying to  do                                                               
benefits  design based  on  evidence of  what  works. Indiana  is                                                               
looking  at   consumer-driven  health   plans  in   their  public                                                               
programs. Tennessee  is putting forth policies  on "first dollar"                                                               
benefits...  front-loading the  benefits  with  primary care  and                                                               
preventive services. Rhode Island is  trying to design their plan                                                               
based  on  changing consumers'  behavior,  getting  them to  take                                                               
advantage   of  primary   care,  prevention   and  chronic   care                                                               
management.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He explained that the  delivery system includes cost-containment,                                                               
quality improvement and systems  redesign and stressed that there                                                               
is no  "silver bullet" in terms  of what's going to  work. States                                                               
cannot do  just one of  these things;  they generally have  to do                                                               
all of them  over time. The problem is that  many of these things                                                               
have  short-term  costs  but long-term  benefits,  which  becomes                                                               
problematic for funding.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:10:10 PM                                                                                                                    
One thing that  many states are trying to do  is promote the idea                                                               
of  a "medical  home" also  called the  "chronic care  management                                                               
model" or "primary  care case management". Covered  on slides 17-                                                               
20, this  gets into redesign  of the delivery system  by focusing                                                               
on creating a  centralized, coordinated way to  deliver care. The                                                               
principals  were developed  by  leading  physicians' groups;  The                                                               
American Academy  of Family Physicians;  The American  College of                                                               
Physicians; and The American Osteopathic Association. They are:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
   · A primary care physician who has a personal relationship                                                                   
     with the patient                                                                                                           
   · A team approach to provide...                                                                                              
   · Comprehensive patient care                                                                                                 
   · Coordination of services through the primary care physician                                                                
   · Improved quality and safety                                                                                                
   · Expanded access, (which is a big complaint in insurance                                                                    
     circles)                                                                                                                   
   · Reimbursement/payment for the added value                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARTINEZ-VIDAL pointed to studies  of the health care systems                                                               
in  the U.S.  and other  countries,  which have  shown that  high                                                               
access to primary care correlates  with low health care spending.                                                               
The  U.S. is  among  the  countries with  the  poorest access  to                                                               
primary care and has the highest per capita spending.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
At this time,  31 states have implemented  advanced medical homes                                                               
in  their Medicaid  programs and  a  number of  other states  are                                                               
working  across different  payers trying  to bring  their private                                                               
sector  insurance carriers  on  board. The  big  problem is  that                                                               
Medicare  is   not  at  the   table  on  these   pilot  projects.                                                               
AcademyHealth is  working with the  federal government,  not only                                                               
to  get Medicare  to  do pilot  projects, but  to  allow them  to                                                               
participate  in  state  pilots.   Many  states  are  using  their                                                               
community medical centers as medical  homes because they have the                                                               
infrastructure in place  and are already functioning  in much the                                                               
same way.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:15:02 PM                                                                                                                    
Slides 22-50                                                                                                                    
Most states  are taking  a pragmatic  approach to  health reform.                                                               
They don't  propose a single-payer  plan or  purely market-driven                                                               
plan, but something  in the middle.  A successful  plan will look                                                               
at  how to  build on  existing systems,  how to  improve existing                                                               
systems and  how to  take advantage of  and redesign  the current                                                               
delivery systems.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:16:04 PM                                                                                                                    
Maine, Massachusetts  and Vermont  have been most  successful, at                                                               
least at  the time  of enacting  comprehensive reforms.  They all                                                               
have  the  building  blocks  of  public  program  expansions  and                                                               
subsidies for low income consumers.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Massachusetts is the only state  with an individual mandate. Both                                                               
Massachusetts and Vermont do have  employer requirements but they                                                               
are minimal; putting  too onerous a requirement  on employers can                                                               
trigger the federal ERISA issue.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
What  these three  states  illustrate is  that  actual reform  is                                                               
possible.  All  three worked  in  a  bi-partisan manner  and  had                                                               
Democratic  legislatures  and  Republican  governors  when  their                                                               
reforms were enacted.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL highlighted  Massachusetts'  "Pillars of  the                                                               
Reform."  These  include  a  Section  125  plan  requirement,  an                                                               
administrative mechanism  that allows their premiums  to come out                                                               
of employees' checks  on a pre-tax basis.  Surprisingly, he said,                                                               
a number of  employers don't have that in place;  so just putting                                                               
that requirement in place could save  1/3 of the premium for many                                                               
people.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Massachusetts merged  their small group and  individual insurance                                                               
markets, which  was easier in  Massachusetts than it would  be in                                                               
many states  because the  two groups had  the same  rating rules.                                                               
They also raised  the dependent age up to 25  so young adults can                                                               
stay  on their  parents'  insurance policies.  (That is  becoming                                                               
known as the "slacker law.")                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Another thing  Massachusetts has  done and  that many  states are                                                               
interested in, is a purchasing  mechanism called the "Connector,"                                                               
which really  helps to  make their  private market  function more                                                               
efficiently and  more competitively.  It provides  more consumer-                                                               
friendly information  to people shopping for  insurance, allowing                                                               
them to  compare participating insurers'  costs and  benefits. It                                                               
has been referred to as the "Travelocity of health insurance."                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:20:17 PM                                                                                                                    
Massachusetts' efforts have been  amazingly successful. Within 18                                                               
to 20  months they actually  reduced the numbers of  uninsured by                                                               
2/3. Almost 40  percent of those are getting  no state subsidies;                                                               
they are  doing it all  through private coverage. They  have seen                                                               
no "crowd-out,"  which is  when a  public program  siphons people                                                               
out of the  private market. In fact, non-group  premiums are down                                                               
over  40 percent  and  membership in  the  individual market  has                                                               
grown over 50  percent. Only about 1-2 percent  of the population                                                               
has  been exempted  from the  mandate.  He clarified  that, if  a                                                               
state is going  to have a mandate, it needs  to provide a "relief                                                               
valve" for those it can't quite  afford to subsidize and for whom                                                               
they don't have affordable benefits available.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vermont's "Blueprint for Healthy  Vermont" is really delivery and                                                               
payment system  redesign. This  is a  top-to-bottom comprehensive                                                               
effort to get  everyone involved: the policy  makers, the payers,                                                               
the hospitals  and physicians, the communities,  the families and                                                               
the individual.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:22:27 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL mentioned  that  California  proposed a  huge                                                               
reform, which failed.  They tried to do access,  cost and quality                                                               
reforms all at  the same time and  it may be that  the change was                                                               
just  too  big. Unlike  Massachusetts,  which  had been  building                                                               
their public programs for years  and had only about eight percent                                                               
uninsured to  begin with,  California did  not have  the building                                                               
blocks in  place and  started with about  15-18 percent  of their                                                               
population uninsured.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:24:12 PM                                                                                                                    
Kansas'  2008  legislative  plan  is looking  at  cost,  quality,                                                               
access,  transparency issues,  implementation  of medical  homes,                                                               
prevention  and wellness.  He pointed  out that  they are  really                                                               
trying  to  do  aggressive  outreach   and  enrollment  of  those                                                               
children who are currently eligible for their public programs.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:25:27 PM                                                                                                                    
New  Mexico accomplished  a higher  enrollment in  existing plans                                                               
but was not  able to get their reform through  the legislature in                                                               
2008. They  were able to pass  funding for the "eligible  but not                                                               
enrolled" during the special session.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Pennsylvania is  attempting to address affordability,  access and                                                               
quality. They  are now  doing a  chronic care  management program                                                               
and working on health information  exchange technology through an                                                               
executive order.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:26:21 PM                                                                                                                    
In  terms   of  substantial  reforms  that   have  occurred,  MR.                                                               
MARTINEZ-VIDAL noted that Indiana is  trying to do some consumer-                                                               
directed "HSA"  (Health Savings  Accounts) within  their Medicaid                                                               
program  that are  linked with  high-deductable insurance  plans.                                                               
This is very controversial and has  not been in place long enough                                                               
for anyone to know what the impact will be.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Iowa had  a big  task force  that has come  back with  some broad                                                               
recommendations  including  public  program  expansions;  Section                                                               
125;  dependent   coverage  up  to   25;  and  a   medical  homes                                                               
initiative.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:27:54 PM                                                                                                                    
Maryland did  both public program  expansions and  SCHIP parents,                                                               
and will  phase in childless  adults as money is  available. They                                                               
are  also  providing  subsidies to  their  small  employers  (2-9                                                               
employees)  through the  Small Business  Health Coverage  Act. In                                                               
order to qualify for the subsidy,  an employer must put a Section                                                               
125  plan in  place and  offer  a wellness  program to  encourage                                                               
healthy behaviors and life-style choices among their employees.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:28:40 PM                                                                                                                    
The big  story out of Minnesota  is that they are  on the cutting                                                               
edge of  payment reform  and delivery  system redesign.  They are                                                               
not only working on medical homes  (what they refer to as "health                                                               
care homes"),  but are trying  to integrate some of  their public                                                               
health programs into the delivery system.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:30:00 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. MARTINEZ-VIDAL  touched very  briefly on activities  in other                                                               
states including:                                                                                                               
   · Slide 36  - New Jersey:  Phase one mandate is  "Kids First."                                                               
     Phase two will bring a  full mandate, Section 125, subsidies                                                               
     etc.                                                                                                                       
   · Slide  37   -  Washington  is  working   on  public  program                                                               
     expansions and a partnership that is like a connector.                                                                     
   · Slide  38-40  - Wisconsin  really  tried  to simplify  their                                                               
     "Badger  Care   Plus"  programs,  which  are   their  public                                                               
     programs. This gets  to the issue of their  eligible but not                                                               
     enrolled by  streamlining the application  process, reducing                                                               
     the  eligibility  rules, investing  a  lot  in outreach  and                                                               
     hiring additional staff to process enrollment.                                                                             
   · Slide    42    -     HealthFirst    Connecticut    Authority                                                               
     Recommendations                                                                                                            
   · Slide 43  - Kansas  2009 Health  Reform Priorities  - Health                                                               
     Policy Authority                                                                                                           
   · Slide 44  - Ohio State Coverage  Initiatives Recommendations                                                               
     are in the governor's office now                                                                                           
   · Slide 45 - Blueprint for Oklahoma - Draft Report                                                                           
   · Slide 46 - Oregon Health Fund Board Report                                                                                 
   · Slide 47 - Utah Legislative Health System Reform task force                                                                
   · Slide  49 -  Rhode  Island ('07):  Their HealthPact  benefit                                                               
     design  is fashioned  around five  wellness initiatives,  in                                                               
     exchange   for  which   consumers'  deductable   is  reduced                                                               
     substantially (from $5,000 to $750). People haven't taken                                                                  
     it up very readily, so the state is still not sure how                                                                     
     successful it will be.                                                                                                     
   · Slide 50 - Cover Tennessee ('07) is a portable product that                                                                
     has a maximum benefit amount of $25,000 and puts all of the                                                                
     benefits up front.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:37:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL  said  that  shortages  in  the  health  care                                                               
workforce are  a major  problem here and  in many  states. Slides                                                               
51-58  define  that issue  and  what  some  states are  doing  to                                                               
address it.  He asserted that  states do have a  strong influence                                                               
on  the development  and practice  of the  health workforce,  but                                                               
recognized  that  it  is   becoming  increasingly  difficult  [to                                                               
maintain sufficient  healthcare workers] as the  population ages.                                                               
There is  going to be a  greater demand for long-term  care, home                                                               
health care and other community-based services.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
It comes back to delivery system  redesign. A lot of research and                                                               
discussion has indicated  that what is needed now  is a different                                                               
sort  of  workforce,  more   physician  "extenders,"  more  nurse                                                               
practitioners and other physician support people.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:38:57 PM                                                                                                                    
One  obstacle to  progress  in  this area  is  that  there is  no                                                               
central  coordinating  mechanism  or data  collection  point  for                                                               
monitoring  and  planning  for the  health  workforce.  Decision-                                                               
making is splintered across various state agencies.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:39:46 PM                                                                                                                    
Massachusetts  did pass  another  big reform  in  August 2008  to                                                               
strengthen   the  primary   care  infrastructure,   including  an                                                               
affordable housing pilot for health care workers.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Oregon  is  looking  at  action   steps  that  include  expanding                                                               
schools' capacity in order to teach more health care students.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:41:52 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL   spent  a  few  moments   on  state  quality                                                               
reporting  activities [slides  59-66],  noting  that most  states                                                               
provide  public reporting  in terms  of health  plans, hospitals,                                                               
nursing homes  and ambulatory  care settings.  Most of  the time,                                                               
reporting serves  two purposes: to  drive consumer choice  and to                                                               
drive internal  quality improvement.  The biggest move  lately is                                                               
to report on health care acquired infections.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Some issues related to "report cards" are:                                                                                      
   · Where does the data come from?                                                                                             
   · What level is the reporting at?                                                                                            
   · Displaying the data could pose a problem because the data                                                                  
     may be good but it doesn't always mean a lot without                                                                       
     consumer information around it to make it usable.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARTINEZ-VIDAL suggested that  some common principals of good                                                               
performance  reporting  are  to  bring together  a  committee  of                                                               
interested  parties  to understand  the  data  issues; pilot  the                                                               
reporting programs  before going to full  implementation in order                                                               
to iron  out the bugs; and  try to reduce duplication  of efforts                                                               
by using data that is already available from other sources.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:46:46 PM                                                                                                                    
Many of  the recommendations that  have been discussed  were made                                                               
by temporary  task forces. Some  state health  policy commissions                                                               
and  authorities  are  more permanent;  slides  67-76  cover  the                                                               
makeup of some of these.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:49:17 PM                                                                                                                    
In  his experience,  Mr. Martinez-Vidal  said, he  has found  the                                                               
permanent bodies to be more  effective because health care reform                                                               
isn't  a one-time  fix. He  cautioned that  creating such  a body                                                               
brings up  another set of problems  such as where to  put it; how                                                               
it will be funded; what  the governance structure will look like;                                                               
and, more important, what its duties  will be. In some states the                                                               
commission actually runs the public programs.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:52:01 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL  highlighted  the lessons  learned  in  state                                                               
reform efforts so far:                                                                                                          
   · Successful comprehensive reforms are built on previous                                                                     
     efforts. The successful states have spent years trying to                                                                  
     get to a point where they could make that comprehensive                                                                    
     leap.                                                                                                                      
   · The needed ingredients are leadership, opportunity, the                                                                    
     readiness to act, and persistence. Bi-partisan leadership                                                                  
     is absolutely essential to make it work.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:53:44 PM                                                                                                                    
   · There are no free solutions. This is not to say that states                                                                
     should not invest in long-term solutions to find the cost-                                                                 
     drivers; but in the short-term, many of these solutions                                                                    
     will cost money up front.                                                                                                  
2:54:21 PM                                                                                                                    
   · It is hard to get agreement on what aspects of health care                                                                 
     reform to address first; but it is clear that comprehensive                                                                
     reforms need sequencing. Sequential or incremental reforms                                                                 
     have a vision; it means laying the building blocks to reach                                                                
     the ultimate goal.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:56:07 PM                                                                                                                    
Every state  has different economic ability  and different needs.                                                               
That  variability is  creating a  dilemma for  federal reform.  A                                                               
federal reform  might have 50  different impacts, so  any federal                                                               
efforts at reform will have to take that into consideration.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:58:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL ended  with the  final thought  that everyone                                                               
has a different  idea of what they want change  to look like; and                                                               
if  it doesn't  help him  or her  personally, status  quo is  the                                                               
second choice.  AcademyHealth and  the states are working to make                                                               
the  second  choice reform  based  on  a compromise  rather  than                                                               
status quo.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:59:26 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  BETIT thanked  Mr. Martinez-Vidal  for his  presentation. He                                                               
said Alaska needs to  get a handle on what is  going on, what the                                                               
data  reveals about  different populations,  and  how to  address                                                               
costs; but he feels  the country is on the cusp  of change with a                                                               
president who wants  to move forward. The governor  has created a                                                               
health care commission;  but it is new and  still being developed                                                               
in legislation.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The question,  he said,  is "Why  should we  act?" The  answer is                                                               
that only  about 20 percent  of small businesses  and individuals                                                               
are paying  for health care each  year. When costs are  rising, a                                                               
simple price  adjustment won't cover it  because federal programs                                                               
deflect the  price increase so  more of it  falls on the  back of                                                               
that 20  percent. Alaska needs  some thoughtful body  to navigate                                                               
through  all of  that  and  decide what  the  state's next  steps                                                               
should be; so pursuing a commission this session makes sense.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:05:08 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER   noticed  that   there  were   only  two                                                               
references to the Certificate of  Need (CON) in this presentation                                                               
and asked Mr.  Martinez-Vidal if he thinks the  CON helps control                                                               
health care costs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:06:49 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL  answered  that   it  varies  across  states,                                                               
depending  on how  it is  structured and  what the  state's needs                                                               
are. He  admitted that he doesn't  often work with states  on the                                                               
issue because  it is  so political, but  said his  experience has                                                               
been that,  while it  can be used  as a lever  to try  to control                                                               
costs, many times it is not very successful.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Maryland  has started  including in  the underlying  state health                                                               
plan that  informs the  Certificate of  Need awards  some broader                                                               
ideas rather  than straight-up  need. They were  able to  use the                                                               
state  health plan  and Certificate  of Need  process to  do more                                                               
interesting things  such as adding  patient safety  measures. For                                                               
example, an  agreement to incorporate patient  safety measures in                                                               
a  new emergency  room  might  be one  of  the  criteria used  in                                                               
deciding whether  to grant  a Certificate of  Need. Or  perhaps a                                                               
hospital  that wants  to  offer a  particular  service for  which                                                               
there is  already enough  access, would  be granted  a CON  if it                                                               
agreed to provide those services to an underserved population.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
So, if  the state doesn't want  to battle over whether  or not to                                                               
keep  the CON,  they  might want  to  start using  it  in a  more                                                               
creative way. He reiterated that,  in general it hasn't been very                                                               
successful in controlling costs.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:10:36 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE HERRON  commented that  Senator Davis and  her co-                                                               
chair  have worked  a great  deal on  this issue.  The remarkable                                                               
thing about all  of this is that so little  has changed. He asked                                                               
Mr.  Martinez-Vidal what  the legislature  should do  during this                                                               
session  to capitalize  on health  care reform  efforts currently                                                               
under discussion at the federal level.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. MARTINEZ-VIDAL answered that the  two big things on the table                                                               
now  at  the  federal  level  are  the  State  Children's  Health                                                               
Insurance  Program  (SCHIP)   reauthorization  and  the  stimulus                                                               
package;  something   will  happen   in  next  month   on  those.                                                               
Reauthorization is  an opportunity. The discussion  is about what                                                               
level  states  are  going  to  be  allowed  to  take  the  income                                                               
eligibility  level to.  Right now  it is  at 200  percent of  the                                                               
federal poverty level;  but it looks as if congress  may allow it                                                               
to  go  to  300  percent  without a  waiver.  With  the  stimulus                                                               
package, there  is a lot  of money  in it for  health information                                                               
technology that  he is afraid  will be squandered  because people                                                               
don't know what  to do with it. He feels  the state should really                                                               
think about how  to capitalize on that.  The technology underpins                                                               
the delivery system redesign, the  quality reporting, and payment                                                               
system reforms.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:14:19 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  PASKVAN asked  what  Mr.  Martinez-Vidal's thoughts  are                                                               
regarding mandatory overtime and the issue of nurse retention.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL   said  some  states  have   been  using  the                                                               
prohibition  of mandatory  overtime as  a way  to retain  nurses.                                                               
That also has  a down-side; it means hiring more  nurses to cover                                                               
the hours.  California tried  it and had  issues with  less well-                                                               
trained  nurses on  staff; but  it does  seem to  have encouraged                                                               
more nurses to stay.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:15:36 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR   THOMAS   asked   Mr.  Martinez-Vidal,   regarding   the                                                               
sequential nature of  planning, if he has  gathered statistics on                                                               
what  incremental  steps  have  been  most  successful  to  begin                                                               
building  toward  reform. He  commented  that  even developing  a                                                               
vision is difficult when the goal is so vast.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:16:43 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  MARTINEZ-VIDAL responded  that  the vision  most people  can                                                               
agree on is pretty broad:  universal coverage, better quality and                                                               
low cost.  What has been  successful is to incrementally  push up                                                               
public program  eligibility and enrollment first.  States have to                                                               
address  that lowest  tier of  people who  will never  be in  the                                                               
private financing sector, then look  at how to subsidize the next                                                               
tier. The whole issue of  chronic care management, prevention and                                                               
wellness is critical  to health care reform and  goes upstream to                                                               
the cost-drivers in  the system.  He stressed that  80 percent of                                                               
costs in the  system are driven by the 20  percent of people with                                                               
chronic conditions, many of which are preventable.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:19:03 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. BETIT commented on Senator  Thomas' question "Where do you go                                                               
from here."  He said  that ASHNHA  has worked  on that  this year                                                               
with  Mr.  Martinez-Vidal's  help   and  have  produced  "Guiding                                                               
Principles  for Health  Care Reform  2009" which  identifies four                                                               
principles to  guide what they  think Alaskans would want  to see                                                               
in  a sequential  set of  steps. He  encouraged the  committee to                                                               
review it and see if it resonates with them.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DAVIS  commented that Alaska  has a lot of  building blocks                                                               
already in place  and said she was pleased to  hear that they can                                                               
build upon  those to get to  the bigger goal. Denali  Kid Care is                                                               
one  program  they can  strengthen  this  year to  help  Alaska's                                                               
children and is  one step toward health care for  all of Alaska's                                                               
citizens.  A bill  is being  introduced  in both  houses for  the                                                               
governor's commission on  health care reform and  that is another                                                               
step. She  is hopeful that they  can accomplish a lot  in this 90                                                               
days and that they can continue  to build on the blocks they have                                                               
in place. She also noted that Senator French has introduced a                                                                   
bill based on the Massachusetts plan.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:22:28 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR DAVIS adjourned the meeting at 3:22:28 PM.                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
Agenda - Health Reform for Alaska.doc SHSS 1/28/2009 1:15:00 PM
AliceRarig Health ReformPresentation.pdf SHSS 1/28/2009 1:15:00 PM
Health Reform for Alaska.ppt SHSS 1/28/2009 1:15:00 PM
Intro - Enrique Martinez-Vidal.doc SHSS 1/28/2009 1:15:00 PM